Australia and New Zealand have joint official guidelines for safe food handling, but only for commercial: nothing for homes. [1] “Safe Food Australia: A Guide to the Food Safety Standards.” Australia New Zealand Food Authority. 2nd Edition, January 2001. Accessed March 2015 at . The governments have not invested in the research for home preservers as the United States has.
There are several issues in home bottling (canning) in New Zealand. One is the cost of supplies: home canning supplies are eye-popping expensive in New Zealand compared to North America. The other is that unsafe home bottling practices are still popularly endorsed.
- 1 Unsafe canning practices in New Zealand
- 2 Clearjel in New Zealand
- 3 Agee Jars
- 4 Agee Lids
- 5 Perfit Lids
- 6 Are Perfit canning lids BPA free?
- 7 Perfit jars
- 8 Alternatives to Perfit jars in New Zealand
- 9 Re-using commercial jars
- 10 Lid Alternatives
- 11 Perfit and Agee electric water bath canners
- 12 The first Agee jars
- 13 Historical
- 14 Suppliers
- 15 Calcium chloride in New Zealand
- 16 Further reading
Unsafe canning practices in New Zealand
“Open kettle canning” is still prevalent in New Zealand. This is not actual canning, but rather literally indeed just “bottling”: hot food is put into a jar, and the jar sealed with no further treatment. It is often referred to as the “overflow” method (which is as non self-explanatory as “open kettle” is, granted.)
Frighteningly, the main vendor of canning supplies in New Zealand, Perfit, still recommends this:
Recommended – OVERFLOW METHOD. This is the simplest and quickest method of bottling.” [2] https://perfit.co.nz/preserving.htm. Accessed June 2015.
Perfit also recommends inverting the jars while they are cooling, a further practice also now labelled as unsafe canning. (See: Inversion Canning.)
Screw down band tightly and turn Jar upside down on bench away from any window draft. Leave to cool. If Seal has domed then remove Band after 12hrs.” [3] https://perfit.co.nz/preserving.htm. Accessed June 2015.
In North America, neither practice — open kettle (pan / overflow) nor inversion, has not been accepted as safe for decades based on decades of lab work and science:
The National Center for Home Food Preservation has worked with the USDA to develop current canning guidelines. Current guidelines do not allow the open kettle method (in which hot food is spooned into hot jars and sealed) or oven methods of canning. All foods must be processed after going into the jar.” [4] Cooper, Rayna. Preserving the Bounty. Gettysburg, Pennsylvania. Gettysburg Times. 3 June 2009. Page B7.
The methods advocated by Perfit are just about everything currently ‘banned’ in North America, and are coming from opinion, not from science-based research. While the products appear to be sound, the actual canning advice should be disregarded. Safe, quality home canning is a constantly evolving science, not an art, and no matter how warmly and sincerely opinions may be held, it’s important to use only current tested recipes from reputable sources using approved processing techniques to ensure products for your family and friends that are as delicious and nutritious as they are safe to consume.
Consequently in the interest of food safety we have to recommend strongly against following any actual preserving advice offered by Perfit.
What can survive high acidity in an unprocessed jar? Well, e-coli, listeria and salmonella are a few examples.
“While these pathogens [Escherichia coli O157:H7, Salmonella enterica, Listeria monocytogenes and other pathogenic bacteria] do not grow in acidified vegetables, they may survive long enough to cause disease. The infectious dose for E. coli O157:H7 may be as low as one to ten cells. For this reason, acidified vegetables must be processed to assure a five log reduction in acid resistant pathogenic bacteria….E. coli O157:H7 has been found to be the most acid resistant pathogen of concern for these products….The research done here documents how innocuous items such as pickled onions could hold E. coli that aren’t immediately killed by the vinegar, and what must be done to ensure its destruction.” [5] Bredit, Frederick, et al. Use of Linear Models for Thermal Processing of Acidified Foods. In: Food Protection Trends, Vol. 30, No. 5, 2010. Pages 268–272. Accessed March 2015.
Ever got Delhi belly after eating someone’s home preserves and wonder where on earth you could have picked it up? You may have been lucky.
Why is the overflow method now considered dangerous, no matter whether someone’s granny did it or not? See here: “Open kettle canning“.
Clearjel in New Zealand
Many of today’s home-canned pie filling recipes call for Clearjel as a thickener. Clearjel (and even some Clearjel alternatives recognized by some Extensions such as Thermfo and Thickgel) can be extremely hard to find in New Zealand, and prohibitively expensive if and when you do.
The best approach is to simply leave it out of those pie filling recipes, proceeding with the recipes otherwise including processing directions. Then, simply thicken the pie fillings as you open jars of them for use with other normal thickeners of your choice such as flour, cornstarch, arrowroot, tapioca, etc. In fact, you may notice that Ball does not call for Clearjel in any of its pie fillings and instead opts for the “thicken upon use” approach.
It’s always safe to leave a thickener out of home canning recipes, because you’re decreasing the density and increasing heat penetration. (It’s the reverse that is not safe: adding or increasing thickener when not called for.)
Agee Jars
Agee jars were the New Zealand brand of preserving jars. Originally, they had a banded collar neck, as the Vacola jars in Australia still do (and Weck jars as well), but by the 1940s / 1950s the switch had begun to screw band lids instead and the brand released the Agee Utility and the Agree Special jars. [6] Zam, Darian. Perfitly Preserved. 2013. Accessed June 2015 at https://longwhitekid.wordpress.com/category/agee/.
No replacement lids are being made anywhere for the band collar type Agees that we are currently aware of, so if you are looking to get into home canning, don’t buy a load of those jars at an auction for use or you will be disappointed.
Agee Lids
There were two brands of home canning lids in New Zealand: Agee and Perfit. Agee brand lids are no longer being made.
The Agee brand was taken over by Marjorie and Don Symonds in the late 1990s. In 2000, they took over the Perfit brand as well. In 2003, they ceased production of the Agee lids as there wasn’t room anymore in the New Zealand market for two brands of lids, and the Perfit brand was more popular. [7] Zam, Darian. Perfitly Preserved. 2013. Accessed June 2015 at https://longwhitekid.wordpress.com/category/agee/.
One of the Agee lid sizes was 80 mm.
If you have older Agee jars and are looking for the 80 mm lids for them, some people suggest looking at either 78 mm GEM lids from Bernardin, or 82 mm lids from Le Parfait Familia Wiss. We have not been in a position to evaluate this for ourselves to see if either fit would work.
Perfit Lids
Perfit lids are now made in North America.
There is just one size of “Perfit Seal” lid. It is labelled “D1” and is 85 mm wide, making it what North Americans would call a wide-mouth lid.
There are, however, two different types of screw bands that you can use it it, depending on how old your preserving jar is.
Use the gold screw band rings for the older thick lipped jars and Mason jars; blue / green ones for the new “Agee” and “Perfit” thinner lipped utility jars.
The very old “Agee” Special Jars and newer Mason Jars take the GOLD “Perfit” Screw Bands only. The later “Agee” and “Perfit” Utility Jars take the Green “Perfit Screw Bands. “Perfit” D1 Dome Seals fit all of these jars.” [8] Retrieved March 2015 from https://perfit.co.nz/preserving.htm
To confirm, you use the same wide-mouth lid with either style of jar; you just need to choose the correct canning ring based on the glass screw-band on the mouth of the jar.
While the canning rings are of course multi-use, the lids are single-use only:
Do not reuse ‘perfit’ seals. They are designed to be only used once.” [9] https://perfit.co.nz/faq.htm
Perfit cautions you, especially with their new lids, to follow now the North American technique for Mason jar lids: “If using the Water Bath or Agee Preserver method pack the fruit, leaving a 10-15mm (¼ inch) head space, then place the Seal on and centralise. As the NEW Seals are made of a thinner material it is most important that you do not to screw down the band too tightly.” [10] https://perfit.co.nz/faq.htm In other words, finger tip tight only for Water Bath.
The Ball (BPA-free) and Leifheit (not BPA free) wide mouth lids (85 / 86 mm) will fit the wide-mouth Agee jars. “If you require a 86mm lid the Ball wide mouth lid fits those Agee jars only.” [11] Glassware-Faqs (Canning Jars) https://ozfarmer.com/index.php?route=information/faq/faq&faqcategory_id=6 The Tattler re-usable lids (BPA-free) can also be substituted for the single-use Perfit lids.
Healthy Canning’s current guess (as of summer 2016) is that the lids might be made by the same company manufacturing the Golden Harvest canning lids, making them essentially a wide-mouth version of them which isn’t normally available in North America. But that is purely conjecture.
Are Perfit canning lids BPA free?
HealthyCanning.com was unable to determine if the Perfit lids were BPA free or not. We received only this answer from Don Symonds, the owner:
You are only the second person to ask this question me this question [sic] in thirty five years. ….. I can’t answer your question as I don’t know however I would guess that there is not. If BPA is a major issue for you to be safe I would suggest that you don’t use them.” [12] Don Symonds to Healthycanning.com 28 March 2015. Correspondence on file.
Perfit jars
Perfit jars are mason-style jars, taking wide-mouth 85 mm lids. They come in half-litre and litre sizes (1 US pint, and 1 US quart.)
Our range of 1 litre and 500ml Perfit Utility Preserving Jars are also made off shore as are all other Preserving Jars that are sold in New Zealand. [13] Perfit products page, accessed November 2016 at https://perfit.co.nz/products.htm
Alternatives to Perfit jars in New Zealand
New Zealanders do have more and more Mason jar choices as time goes by.
Frutta del Prato and Quattro Stagioni jars are now being sold in New Zealand. Many of the jars in those brand lines, but not all, have standard Mason jar mouth sizes — either 70 mm or 85 mm. This will let you use standard, USDA recommended two-piece Mason jar closure lids. Ask before you purchase to be sure. Buy only in multi-pack as they are far cheaper than buying individually.
As an example, these Frutta del Prato jars, available at 3bucketsfull.com as of November 16, come in far cheaper per unit when bought in multi-packs like this of six, than other Mason jars sold singly.
Re-using commercial jars
All that being said, there’s little question that the cost of ‘official’ certified Mason jars in New Zealand is very high compared to North America. What Americans and Canadians pay for a dozen jars, you can just about pay for one jar in New Zealand. Not quite, but close enough. That’s fine if you do one pot of jam a year; not so much if you are looking at bottling six dozen jars of carrots.
Consequently, many people in New Zealand do re-use wide-mouth (85 mm) jars from stores that had stuff in them first. They’ll purchase the Perfit lids and canning rings to use with the jars for home bottling purposes.
While some North American educators advise against re-using commercial jars, others are more accepting of the reality of “when needs must.” Note though that none of the concerns are related to food safety — if the food is processed properly using a tested recipe and a seal is achieved, then the food is safe. The concerns are more “operational”, owing to the higher breakage rate that they say these jars can have.
That being said, there are few colder realities than price sticker shock, and if some of the North American educators saw the prices of Mason jars in New Zealand, whatever they say publicly, they might be privately offering to help you peel the labels off the mayo jars.
You can read more on the general topic of re-using commercial jars.
Lid Alternatives
Wide-mouth (86 mm) Tattler lids will fit the wide-mouth 85 mm Agee jars.
There is no officially approved Tattler supplier for New Zealand as of fall 2016; however Tattler says they will ship directly to New Zealand via United States Postal Service. You can ask them for a no-obligation quote. [14]Tattler to Healthy Canning. November 2016. Facebook messenger service.
- Fishpond (link valid as of July 2016)
Given the price of replacement canning lids in New Zealand, it may be worth investing in the re-usable Tattlers.
Perfit and Agee electric water bath canners
Both Agee and Perfit Seal made water bather canners at one point in time.
Some were stove-top; some were electric.
The electric were similar in concept to the Weck canner, and the Ball Electric Water Bath Canner (released in 2015).
The Perfit Seal ones were around in the 1950s, made of metal. The Agee electric preservers were tall counter-top water boiling pots made of plastic or metal. Many people are still using theirs after decades.
The thermostat on the electric ones was designed to, over the course of an hour, slowly raise the temperature of the cold water in the pot to a boil, and then simmer the bottles for a period of time. [15] https://www.hobbsorchard.co.nz/bottling.html
The units are are no longer being made. Second hand models can be found on TradeMe. When the element finally burns out, it can be hard to find a replacement element now.
Note that even though older war-time era Agee Preserver manuals gave instructions for processing low-acid foods, these instructions apparently (some users say) disappeared from later manuals.
Old-timers remember the Agees:
We bought an AGEE preserver and that made the work a lot easier. Instead of standing in front of the stove for hours – days even – we were able to sit down to peel them, then pack the peeled peaches into the jars while they were still raw. Then we poured a syrup of sugar and water over them almost to the top of the jar. The perfit seal was placed on, and the screwband tightened just right. Then six jars were placed on a wire grid at the bottom of the preserver, with a seventh in the middle. Water was added to cover the jars by at least two inches, then the element was turned on and the water was brought to the boil. After it boiled, there was a thermostat that kept the water just at boiling point for the required time. 20 minutes for peaches I remember….While the first lot of fruit was cooking, we were able to get another lot ready to go. We’d drain some of the hot water out of the AGEE preserver and add some cold, to take the temperature down enough that the jars wouldn’t crack as they were put in the water, then we’d fill to the two inches above the jars mark before turning on the element again. The instruction book said we could put seven jars around the outside, and an eighth in the middle, but we found that if they touched each other, or the side of the container, they were likely to break, so we limited it to seven, and that was just the right number to prepare before the first lot was cooked and ready to take out.” [16] Blog posting by user Ansy Pansy from Opotiki, New Zealand. “Reminisce Board” on https://www.grownups.co.nz/ . 9 December 2009. Accessed March 2015 at https://www.grownups.co.nz/discuss/show/id/3408/page/32
The first Agee jars
The first Agee jars were made in the 1920s to 1940s. [17] Jar, preserves; Agee; 1920-1940; MT1993.98.19. New Zealand Museums. Accessed October 2015 at https://www.nzmuseums.co.nz/account/4033/object/122595 Made by the Australian Glass Company (operating in Sidney, Australia and Penrose, New Zealand), they were called “Queen” jars and had a banded collar neck. Around that neck was a wire band , with two clamp type handles on either side of the bottle. You’d set a rubber ring (gasket) and a glass lid on top the jar, and then use those handles to clamp the lid down during processing. (This is also known as a “bail-type” closure for canning jars.) After processing, you would release the clamps to check your seal.
Nowadays, such jars are recommend for dry or refrigerated storage only because even though the jars are strong and lasted well, the truth behind the nostalgia is that the glass-lidded canning jars had a lot of seal failures, both right after processing and on the shelf, causing a lot of food wastage.
Historical
Baker, Susan. Home Preserving. Gisborne Photo News. # 151. 25 January 1967. https://photonews.org.nz/gisborne/issue (Caution: for reference only. Do not follow any of the preservation methods, particularly ones relating to vegetables including tomatoes, meat, fish and shellfish)
Suppliers
Note: inclusion on this list does not constitute an endorsement.
Home canning supplies in New Zealand are very expensive compared to North America. The best you can do is perhaps shop the sales, and buy jars in multi-packs whenever possible to get the price down. You should be able to get all the jars we mentioned in packs of 6, if not also 12.
If you have recommendations about the most affordable sources in New Zealand of modern two-piece lid Mason jars, and for replacement lids, please let us know so we can tell others.
Fishpond (including Ball, Tattler, Leifheit; link valid as of July 2016)
Calcium chloride in New Zealand
Calcium chloride is a firming agent used in home pickling.
The brand name “Pickle Crisp” is ludicrously expensive in New Zealand, owing to import costs. We’ve seen it being advertised for up to $40.00 and over.
Bear in mind that it is pure food grade calcium chloride. You just need to find that under another name. Brewing supply stores often sell it. Here’s one store that, as of February 2018, charges $10.00 for 1 lb (500 g) of it, with (we are told) $3.00 shipping. https://www.brewshop.co.nz/calcium-chloride.html
Further reading
Zam, Darian. Perfitly Preserved. 2013.
References
SJ
Just for general interest – I have used Quattro Stagioni jars now available in New Zealand for preserving, and they fit Perfit Dome seals, and the Gold Bands very well. Purchased from Wainhouse Distribution in Auckland for the best price at the time.
I’ve also used Tattler Reusable canning lids (self imported) with Agee jars, Perfit Jars, etc. to good success (using the water bath method). Certainly worth looking into if you are a serious preserver, particularly water bath / pressure canning.
Really appreciate all the knowledge on this site, it has helped me immensely!
Yolanda Smit
Hi, I bought my canner from Amason and want to use it now but not sure what pressure I need to use and what time for different vege. We live in the South Island, New Zealnd, Franz Josef.
Also, the large Perfit jars are they equal to a “quart” size.
Thanks for your support.
Yolanda Smit
Hi, I am new to canning, I bought my pressure canner from Canada. It is the dial one. Do i use 11000 pressure? Where do I find the correct timetable for a variety of vege
Richard Vowles
I’m in Auckland and for water bath canning, I use the TomPress – I purchased them (I have 2) from France and they shipped them out at a pretty reasonable rate. Their voltage is the same, you just need an adapter.
Bonnie
I’m looking for a Agee preserver 370 width
Would you know where I could buy this
Kind regards
Bonnie
Lynley Hall
I presently have one of this item on trade me. Along with various jars, seals and screw bands.
Another brand available is Fowler Vaccola, They also used sell a preserver too. I have also obtained supplies from a firm called Millies in Remuera in Auckland. I have found it very satisfying to have preserved fruit ( especially Central Otago Apricots) since I married 50years ago, having learned the art at my Mother/s side.I have never had a manual for the preserver but have done very well using it at 100degrees Celcius.
Owen
Weck jars are now available in NZ: Moore Wilsons have a good selection. Still pricey!
Healthy Canning
Good to know, thanks!
Lynley Hall
Briscoes have a good selection of various sized jars and Countdown also stock jars seals and screw bands. I have been preserving fruit purchased on line for as long as I can remember obtained from Cromwell. I can no longer manage to lift the large jars so am selling my preserver and doing all my preserving using 500gm ex jam jars in the microwave. 2.5minutes on high, top up with boiling water or syrup then screw on the original lid an cool out of draughts.. I usually do 8 at a time and haven’t had a failure yet in 3 years.
Nicole
Has anyone here used these jars from Kmart? https://www.kmart.co.nz/product/6-preserving-jars—300ml/2408874?gclsrc=aw.ds&&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI5LSy15Ll5QIVFQ4rCh2j3gcfEAQYCSABEgJzLfD_BwE I wonder if they’re any good… tho I don’t see any replacement lids on the Kmart site, the jars are cheap.
Soo Yeon Yoo
Yes I bought them and found out that their sizes are not regular sizes for canning. Their lids are only for them and I returned them. However, you can still can them.
Jehanne
Came across this page in my search for lids for some Agee Utility Jars (80mm) that I inherited. Thought it may be useful to let you know that I tried the Le Parfait Familia Wiss 82mm lids and unfortunately they do NOT fit.
Healthy Canning
Jehanne, thank you very much for trying, and letting us know the result, even though it would have been nice to hear that they did fit!
Tina Galloway
Where is the cheapest place to buy Ball jars in New Zealand they are so expensive as they have to be imported I understand that but I am looking at canning Vega meat ?
Will the Perfit jars take pressure canning.
Harry
I have used Perfit jars for pressure canning and they held up well. However, this was for a batch of peaches, not meat, so they were not subjected to particularly long processing times.
That being said, perfit jars have proven to be quite sturdy for me so far, so I would say they are worth trying for Pressure Canning meat – I am planning on doing so at some point.
Helen Wood
At what temperature should the Perfit jars be steralised in the oven
Healthy Canning
Oven sterilization has been discredited decades ago as being ineffective, as well as dangerous (jars shattering.) See here for up to date information on sterilizing jars. As long as you’re going to the work of learning, might as well learn up to date stuff.
Anna Anderson
I’m interested in setting up a Community cannery in my area in North Canterbury, New Zealand. Any like minds are welcome to contact me. Anna
Yolanda Smit
Hi Anna, only saw the page now and I am in Franz Josef and new to canning. Would like to get some tips from you.
Jane
Do you know where th get replacement seal for the if of the ages preserver stove top the seal is perishing please.
Healthy Canning
Sorry Jane not sure. You could try Stokes (NZ) or Smiths, as well as asking on https://forum.foodlovers.co.nz to see if anyone else had that issue and if so where they got a replacement. If you do find one, please let us know where.
mark
1/4 inch is 6.25mm
I use about12mm air space,from bitter experience,
cheers
mark
Healthy Canning
Hi Mark, headspace required varies based on the food product being home canned; your tested recipe will give you the amount. If using Tattler lids, they are now recommending to allow an extra 1/4 inch (1/2 cm) or so.
Alison Rudd
I have an ancient Agee preserver with the red lid. Does anyone have a lid ring/seal for sale?
Lesley McGregor
Where in NZ do I go about getting a water bath canner? As from reading the above I assume this is the only safe method of bottling?
Many thanks
Healthy Canning
Hi Lesley, you can use any pot that will be tall enough to allow for some kind of padding on the bottom, and, for all the jars to be covered by water by one inch.
Here’s some information: https://www.healthycanning.com/water-bath-canning-theory/#the-water-bathing-pot (in fact, I’d recommend reading the entire page to familiarize yourself with the theory.)
One thing to consider: if you ever look at paying for an actual dedicated “water bath canner”, it might be a better use of money to get an “atmospheric” steam canner instead, as it does seem as though that is the way of the future for high-acid products. It’s covered at the top of that page I just gave the link to.
Robbie Bazsika
Mitre 10 sells the water bath. I use this method but I also use a pressure canner which we bought through Amazon a few years back. I pressure can a lot, soups, stews, tomatoes – spaghetti sauce and soup. I use the water bath for chutney, jams, beetroot, etc. There is an excellent preserving book put out by Ball you could get from Amazon. I have a tattered old version but I hear the new version is excellent. https://www.freshpreserving.com/ball-blue-book–guide-to-preserving-%2837th-edition%29-1034026.html
All the best with your home preserves!
Jillian Milne
Those pressure canners look lethal, do you find them eay to use?
Barbara
Good morning,
I have been given a large number of very old Agee (and AGEE) jars that have a rolled lip without the the screw band round the edge of the glass and so don’t take the screw band lids. How on earth do you seal them?
I have searched and searched for the answer on the net but so far have only come up with information on the screw band type which is not what I want!
I was given them by an old neighbour whose wife now has dementia and he didn’t know how she used them.
Hoping you can help 🙂
Kind regards
Barbara
Healthy Canning
Those sound like they might be the Agee “Queen” model of jars, made up until around the 1940s. If that line of thinking is correct (you can see a photo of them here https://img1.etsystatic.com/058/0/7871862/il_570xN.710545851_d3tx.jpg ) they would have had a wire band around their necks, with two clamp type handles on either side of the bottle. You’d set a glass lid and a rubber ring (gasket) on top the jar, and then use those handles to clamp the lid down during processing. (This is also known as a “bail-type” closure for canning jars.) Nowadays, such jars are recommend for dry or refrigerated storage only.
Michelle
Hi Barbara,
If they are the little jars, that have a smooth rounded edge and no thread for a screw cap, they could be the Agee Jam Jars. There are two styles of those. The earlier one has the ‘Agee’ writing going upwards in a curve. You can’t use a metal seal on those. I’ve used cellophane if for jam. However, after extensive searching online, like you did, I found an instance of someone using a red plastic lid that stayed on nicely.